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Well, hi everyone. Welcome to the Smazy Academy Show with Tonia Ryan and-
Chris Khorsandi aka Doc Vegas.
Yes. Combined. We have over 30 years of experience in the medical and skincare industry. And we want to share our best practices as well as tips that we've learned from seeing thousands of our clients' skin transformed.
We're going to help you guys. We're going to drag you out of the fire of all that crazy stuff that you see on YouTube.
That is true.
All the weird stuff that people have no idea, the skincare routines, the people who aren't professionals telling you what to do with your skin. We're going to get you, we're going to grab you and we're going to tell you how to do it right.
That's right. Teaching, learning, and education. So whether you're a skincare newbie or a skincare connoisseur, this show is for you.
Yeah. We're going to talk about all levels here.
Yes.
Perfect.
And in today's episode, we're going to talk about five things you should never put on your face.
Tsk, tsk. No, don't do it.
There are so many people using all these different natural ... or what they think are natural skincare products that they're getting in their home that they're putting on their face, Doc. How do you feel about this?
I think this is going to be very, very interesting.
It is going to be very interesting, because there's so many YouTube videos out there. And if you don't know, and you're just watching YouTube and you see some of these things, you think you need to try them.
Yeah. I mean, guys, there's a lot of stuff you shouldn't put on your face. Tonia's compiled a list. Although not exhaustive of five things I think you shouldn't put on your face.
Okay. These are only five things. I literally-
There's a lot more than this guys.
... have hundreds of things I need to tell you not to put on your face, but we're going to start with five, so we don't overload you with information.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we should do this every week.
Maybe. Right?
Because there are more than five things, but this will be interesting. What are the top five things, Tonia?
Okay. Well, the first thing is traditional bar soap.
Oh, yeah.
Now, okay, we all have gone on vacation. We'd been at a hotel.
You steal the shampoo, Tonia?
No, no, no. I'm saying like-
I know there's a confession coming.
.. let's say ... Okay. So we live in Vegas, right? So let's say we want to go down to Huntington for the weekend and you want to do it spontaneous and you need to bring all of your products, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So you get there or the airline loses your luggage. How many times does that happen, right?
And that's happened to me. That's the worst.
Yes. And then you don't have your regular skincare regimen. So at times you're using their bar soap. You're in the shower because you're in the sun all day.
No way, no. No way, no. Now, so it's interesting. You go to these hotels and they sometimes have this kind of brand. It sounds very impressive right?
Right.
You go to the hotel, but it's bar soap and it's probably the same bar soap in a different package from some other hotels.
Oh, they are. Yeah.
Yeah.
They're all licensed. They use their ... they get the same bar soap and put it in there, Hilton or whatever.
Well, yeah. I mean, what's in these bar that are no good ... And by the way, I'm going to tell you something. I treat patients from all different levels. It's very interesting. I have a patient. I think they're worth about billion dollars and she even steals the bar soap she said from the hotel. And it's not that they can't afford it, but it's just who doesn't take that little soap when it's nice. And I think that's the problem. You get home and you get this thing on your counter, right?
Well, you know why?
Yeah.
Because they smell so good.
They do.
So they trick you.
Okay, that's what it is.
They make you think, "Oh, this smells so good. I got to use this." And it also makes you feel like or gives you memories of the vacation you were on.
There you go. That's probably what it is.
It's a sensory.
You know what? You're 100% right. Because sometimes I've got these ... some of the nicer hotels give you full bars, right?
Oh, yes. Yeah.
They'll have the nice bubble bath set off. And those ... They're really cool, getting all fancy, right? So you get that bar soap, you have a nice, maybe it's a romantic weekend with your wife or significant other. And then you get this bar of soap, but it's like they replenish it every day. You're like, "Well, it'd be simpler to leave it here. And you bring it back. You're washing your hands and it's like ... You get that kind of like momentary break from your day, right? And you're back ... Well, I don't know. Maybe you're on Laguna Beach. Maybe you're in Bora Bora, the seashells. Maybe you're down in the Panama Canal. Doesn't matter. I mean, you're taken back. It's like that old commercial.
It's true. The smells and the sensory, however it does to your brain, right?
Boom. Well, the olfactory bulb, which is part of the brain that senses smell is associated with some of the most significant parts of our memory. In fact, it's one of the things that can trigger memories even 80 years later that haven't been thought in a long time. Crazy.
Wow, that's amazing. But, you know what? Some of these hotels are doing now is they're actually bringing in good skincare brands to create their products. It only happens here [crosstalk 00:04:50]
Making things better.
But when we're talking about the typical average bar soap, it's not something you want to put on your face.
Now, we're not going to name any names either. You're not going to get us to do that, but you know who you are [crosstalk 00:05:00]
That's right. Exactly.
Okay? And we know what those products are. They are the traditional bar soaps you probably will find in any supermarket or pharmacy.
That's right. And they can severely dry your skin out and strip it of the oils that your face needs. If it's something you're using for the rest of your body, underarms, privates, other places, you know that it intends to clean those areas.
It's to get the bacteria deep in those pores in your armpits out so it kind of clean up the [inaudible 00:05:27] there ... those areas that just kind of ... they get a little smelly.
So, we don't want to put it on our face. And you really don't-
And why do they get smelly? It's bacteria.
Right. And if you're using the soap all over your body, you really don't want to go back to your face anyways, right?
Well, that's probably just something you learned in first grade, but hey, listen, we're at all levels folks.
Right.
So all levels here. We're teaching at all levels.
So no bar soap, guys. All of them are different, but the traditional bar soap, it's not something you want to use.
Yeah. Why? Because it dries you out.
It dries you out.
Yeah.
It's not good for you. You need to keep some of the natural oils there.
Okay. Okay. I buy that. I like that. Definitely one of things that we should not do to our faces. What's number two, Tonia?
Number two is kitchen oil. Now-
Kitchen oil?
Yes. All kitchen oils are not created equal. You have extra virgin olive oil. You got safflower oil, canola oil, peanut oil, on and on and on.
Yeah, I know. I grew up in an Italian household. There's only one oil, olive oil, olive oil.
The best.
What else is there? There's no ... I mean, they cook everything in this olive oil.
Oh, yeah.
So, people putting this on their face now?
Okay. But do you know that even extra virgin olive oil, which there's a huge rage on YouTube about, the people are putting in all over their face and I guess there are some benefits to that.
If you want to smell like pizza. Right? Go ahead.
Right. Do I want to really smell like my garden salad on my face? Okay. Maybe some people do.
A vegetarian maybe.
Right.
Sure.
But I don't know if you know this or not. There was a huge industry like shakeup with olive oil coming from Italy.
Hey.
And it's not even ... It's counterfeit not even real olive oil.
What!
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my god.
That's a whole another thing, so.
[inaudible 00:07:10] does not import fake olive oil. Okay?
That happened. And it's been happening. All I can do [crosstalk 00:07:16]
So, not surprising.
But anyways, okay, so the oils, right?
Yes.
Some of the olive oils on YouTube people swear by.
And you definitely don't want to put this on your face right after you've cooked with it.
Exactly.
Look guys, this is all levels of information here. Don't put hot oil on your face. Okay.
Right.
And then ... I mean, I'm joking. I'm joking.
But the extra virgin olive oil people swear by that. That's the only one that's good for your face. I've never tried it. I love olive oil. That's all I cook with. That's all I put in my salad, but I am not putting it on my face.
It's not made for your face. If that was the case, I mean, people would be walking around rubbing olives on their face for the last 4,000 years. I mean, come on people. I mean, the olive has been around as long as the wheel has. Give me a break.
Right.
Well, I mean, we've been eating it. I mean, it's been around for millions of years, but you know what I'm saying? Go ahead. So-
Yeah. I know a lot of people are using canola oil.
No pan, no nonstick pan.
Yeah. Don't do any ... I mean-
Maybe a spritz somewhere, no?
Listen. some people love it. So I can't tell them if they're loving it already.
I can't believe it's not butter spray. Not for your face, people.
Yeah. I can't tell them it's not working for you if they feel it's working for them.
Don't do it.
But I ... my personal opinion, all my years in the skincare industry, I don't think it's something you should do. There's so many products out there that are so much better for you.
Look, I agree. I mean, if you really got to get down under the cabinets in your kitchen to find your skincare products, man, I'm sorry.
Right.
I'm sorry.
So let's stay away from that. It clogs your pores. It can actually give you more of a breakout because we already have some oil [crosstalk 00:08:44]
I've seen that. Yeah, no, I see ... God, I see that. The coconut oil routines are also one on one. I see that a lot.
Okay. I did coconut oil once in my hair. Pure coconut oil. Saw it online maybe eight years ago and it was the grossest nightmare of getting it out of my hair. I felt like I had to wash my hair 10 times. It was so greasy and heavy.
Yeah. No. I don't think that's necessary.
No. So forget that.
Yeah. I mean maybe if you want to do a DIY you go coconut oil mess, all right. Fine. But you know what? You're going to clog your pores, right? You got to ... I mean, I think the benefits of coconut oil have been well established to be overrated. Okay? So, you know.
Just have to be careful. You don't want to-
No. Stay out of the kitchen when you're dealing with your facial skincare regimen, okay? Bottom line.
Okay. So number three, body moisturizer.
Body moisturizer. Okay.
We do not want to put body moisturizer on our face at all, because-
Well, I mean, it's just made for your butt. I mean ... Is that the stuff you're talking about?
Well, the things that you buy at Bath and Body Works or ... that you're putting all over your skin, it's high in Shea butter and different things like that, which is great when your skin's dry, you're feet. You're [crosstalk 00:09:53]
Oh, that stuff is like pancake batter. You don't want to put that on your face, girls. That is-
Absolutely.
Guys, I mean. I-
Everyone.
That stuff is just way too thick. I've seen people put this stuff you put on like chafe elbows on their face. I'm like, "Guys, no, stop."
Yeah, let's not do that.
I mean, that's just too much ... A lot of that stuff has a lot of paraffin in it too. So, it's just ... You know what you become? It looks shiny for a minute, but that's like the apple in the supermarket where they put the wax on it.
Exactly.
I mean, it's kind of like ... it's not Madame Tussauds Wax Museum, okay?
No.
So, some of those body creams, they have the paraffin in it because the paraffin traps in moisture. Right? And so, the purpose of that is that in patients or individuals who are supremely dry, the paraffin acts as a moisture barrier, right? And that's good on the body, but your face needs to breathe. It's very important because you're ... Well-
That's right. It's not breathing.
If you clog those pores, you're going to create a perfect opportunity for bacteria to set up shop and make that pimple, okay? So, watch that body cream. Watch the paraffin amounts in it. Definitely not something on your face, okay?
No.
Dry skin, arms, knees, sure.
That's fine.
No problem.
Okay. So let's go to number four and this one is really freaking me out. It's baking soda.
Oh God, yeah. I heard about this.
Okay. Baking soda, we clean crevices like on the floor. It's super high alkaline.
Oh, yeah this is-
The texture is very intense and rough and thick.
Yeah. Yeah. It looks like ... okay. So it's like one of those things, I think it's like a old maid's tale. It's like baking soda, you can use for pretty much anything, right? You can brush your teeth with it. You can mop your floors. You put it in the fridge and it soaks up the stink. It's got like ... I don't know, but you can't use it for everything. Okay?
Yeah, you cannot.
I mean like come on, guys.
Well, I saw on YouTube, people were using it for their face. So they were taking ... they already had it in the refrigerator and then they were taking it out of the refrigerator and you did it on their face, but that's absorbing bacteria from the refrigerator and then getting infections on the face.
But it's like putting used toilet paper on your face. What are you doing? That's so stupid. Sorry.
I just had a visual. I mean, really? I would say.
[inaudible 00:12:10] filthy. It's all the bacteria from your fridge.
You're right. It's close.
I mean, that its whole job. It's like a filter for your fridge.
Yeah,
So, you got to take your filter from your fridge and wipe it on your face. Great.
Yeah, disgusting.
[inaudible 00:12:22] okay.
So don't use that, everyone. You can get severe allergic reaction. It can really irritate your skin if you're using it as a scrub. Let's not do that.
Yeah. Just do a little bit of an aside. Do you know what you can use baking soda for?
What?
I thought this is really cool. If you got a car that has one of those like really screeching fans like ... you start it up. You've heard it. It's like squeaky.
Yes.
And we don't get that so much here because it's pretty dry. But you just throw some baking soda on the belts on the car, it stops. But it's not for your face.
Okay. So do we really want ... Yeah. Do we really want something we put on the belts for our car on our face? Yeah.
No. You don't want that. You don't want that. Because you know why? You want to look beautiful. Right? All right. So baking soda-
No. Here's our last one.
No. Let's go from the top.
I have one more.
Let's recap. What was number one?
Okay. Number one is-
Was bar soap, right?
Traditional bar soap. [crosstalk 00:13:10]
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Number two, kitchen oil.
Kitchen oil, bad idea. You fry your face. No.
Three, body moisturizer.
Body moisturizer, too much paraffin. You're going to clog your pores. It's just too much.
Yeah. Four, baking soda.
Baking soda. Boom.
Boom. Okay.
Now, we have arrived, the controversial last one.
This is the biggest one that I've ever heard that is like unbelievable. Are you guys ready for this? Number five, semen.
Oh my God.
Doc, semen. People are putting semen on their face. They're getting facial, semen facial. Okay. Right.
All right. All right. Okay. Listen, Tonia, I got to have to step in here and take off the white coat for a minute, okay? And put on my chemistry glasses. What did you think I was going to say, stand up for all men everywhere?
Oh, you know what? I think ... Yeah. Are you going to do a bro thing and say it's okay because you don't want all men to like freak out on you like, "Doc, why did you do that?"
No. We're going to talk science. Okay?
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh (affirmative). I'm feeling that [crosstalk 00:14:06]
Okay. So sperm has this thing in it called spermine. It's a chemical compound. Okay?
Okay.
So, what is spermine? Well, spermine is an antioxidant guys, okay? So, we always talk about putting antioxidants on skin and all that stuff like vitamin C, E, ferulic, that stuff. But this is mother nature's antioxidant.
Okay.
It's a amino acid, okay? And it's formulated from L-ornithine. Okay? So, I'm going to get my geek hat on.
All right. That's good.
So, L-ornithine is part of the uric acid cycle. It's part of our mechanism of metabolism, but you can actually take L-ornithine supplements and it's believed to be part of the pathway for development of growth hormone. So a lot of supplement shops, GNC, vitamin shop, wherever you buy your vitamins from, they'll have this stuff and it's maybe a precursor for your natural GH so it's going to help you grow. So, the other thing that sperm has and it's probably from spermine, okay, is it's an antidepressant. Now, I don't know if it's absorbed through the skin, but it has been shown that-
What's it going to say? [crosstalk 00:15:15]
This was a clinical study.
[crosstalk 00:15:15] to absorb that antidepressant.
It may have to go in through a different route. I won't get into that.
Look, I appreciate-
All right? It's a family show. All right?
I appreciate ... I appreciate-
Look, I'm trying to be professional here. And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to take my chemist glasses off, put my beard on like my psychiatrist. It's an antidepressant for some reason. Right? So, there's actually a clinical study that showed that women who have some [crosstalk 00:15:40]
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
Is that what is, consistent? All right. Maybe that's what the study showed. Okay. But the study showed that this actually helped with depression. So, I mean, I'm going to beg to differ with number five for numerous reasons.
I'm going to pretend you're not a doctor right now. You're more a male and you're trying to make it more of a positive thing, but either way, okay.
I recent that. This is scientifically based on all accounts.
Okay. But when we go and [crosstalk 00:16:10]
And I'm here educate only.
When we go into antioxidants, right? We don't ... No one has tested each person's individual semen to see how high of an amount of antioxidants there are in that. And also, another thing is, what happens if the person has an STD?
Oh, well, yeah. You're-
So you're putting that onto your face.
Ew, you went there. Oh, man.
Okay. It's a fact. And now, women-
Well, if you're in a committed relationship, right? You're in a healthy marriage, right? Okay. In a committed relationship, the STD risk is relatively zero. Relatively zero.
Well, that's fine.
I mean, you could have sat on a toilet seat or something like that, right? Okay. Okay.
Okay. That's fine. [crosstalk 00:16:48]
So what about that situation, Tonia? And knowing all the facts that I've just laid out for you that it's an antidepressant, it's an antioxidant. It's a moisturizer. It has spermine in it and there's a lot of reasons. Given all that, STD free-
We need some evidence. So maybe-
There is evidence.
... we do some sort of ... So let's go into the sperm facials that people are getting. Okay? All I want to know is where they would get the semen from.
What? Wait, what?
It's true. It's something online. People are getting.
Come on.
They are. But where is the semen coming from? I do not recommend anyone does anything like this whatsoever.
Well, that's a health risk.
Well, of course it is.
Just, what?
Yes, it's a fact.
No. Can't be. This has to be ... [crosstalk 00:17:36]
Okay. It is a proven fact. All you have to do is Google it. You will see-
Who's sperm?
I don't know. They aren't saying who's sperm.
Is it human sperm? Whale sperm? What is this?
No, it's supposed to be human sperm.
What!
I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to find out more about this and we'll talk more about this and [crosstalk 00:17:50]
It's got to be on a dark web. Where are you finding this from?
I google it.
God!
Yeah.
Shame on you Google. [crosstalk 00:17:56]
So, that's something ... I don't think we should do the ... Doc, if you want to follow his advice on using it and the committed relationship [crosstalk 00:18:04]
I didn't tell you, you had to do it. All I'm saying is that there are benefits.
Okay.
Okay?
I appreciate that.
Can we leave it at that?
We can leave it at that.
Just focus on the science maybe.
I think that getting the right skincare is probably a better choice.
Yeah. Most of the time. Okay, I'll give you that. That's for sure. Okay.
Okay.
Because this is impractical [inaudible 00:18:23]. It's no way.
I completely agree with you.
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Chris Khorsandi aka Doc Vegas.
Yes. Combined. We have over 30 years of experience in the medical and skincare industry. And we want to share our best practices as well as tips that we've learned from seeing thousands of our clients' skin transformed.
We're going to help you guys. We're going to drag you out of the fire of all that crazy stuff that you see on YouTube.
That is true.
All the weird stuff that people have no idea, the skincare routines, the people who aren't professionals telling you what to do with your skin. We're going to get you, we're going to grab you and we're going to tell you how to do it right.
That's right. Teaching, learning, and education. So whether you're a skincare newbie or a skincare connoisseur, this show is for you.
Yeah. We're going to talk about all levels here.
Yes.
Perfect.
And in today's episode, we're going to talk about five things you should never put on your face.
Tsk, tsk. No, don't do it.
There are so many people using all these different natural ... or what they think are natural skincare products that they're getting in their home that they're putting on their face, Doc. How do you feel about this?
I think this is going to be very, very interesting.
It is going to be very interesting, because there's so many YouTube videos out there. And if you don't know, and you're just watching YouTube and you see some of these things, you think you need to try them.
Yeah. I mean, guys, there's a lot of stuff you shouldn't put on your face. Tonia's compiled a list. Although not exhaustive of five things I think you shouldn't put on your face.
Okay. These are only five things. I literally-
There's a lot more than this guys.
... have hundreds of things I need to tell you not to put on your face, but we're going to start with five, so we don't overload you with information.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we should do this every week.
Maybe. Right?
Because there are more than five things, but this will be interesting. What are the top five things, Tonia?
Okay. Well, the first thing is traditional bar soap.
Oh, yeah.
Now, okay, we all have gone on vacation. We'd been at a hotel.
You steal the shampoo, Tonia?
No, no, no. I'm saying like-
I know there's a confession coming.
.. let's say ... Okay. So we live in Vegas, right? So let's say we want to go down to Huntington for the weekend and you want to do it spontaneous and you need to bring all of your products, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So you get there or the airline loses your luggage. How many times does that happen, right?
And that's happened to me. That's the worst.
Yes. And then you don't have your regular skincare regimen. So at times you're using their bar soap. You're in the shower because you're in the sun all day.
No way, no. No way, no. Now, so it's interesting. You go to these hotels and they sometimes have this kind of brand. It sounds very impressive right?
Right.
You go to the hotel, but it's bar soap and it's probably the same bar soap in a different package from some other hotels.
Oh, they are. Yeah.
Yeah.
They're all licensed. They use their ... they get the same bar soap and put it in there, Hilton or whatever.
Well, yeah. I mean, what's in these bar that are no good ... And by the way, I'm going to tell you something. I treat patients from all different levels. It's very interesting. I have a patient. I think they're worth about billion dollars and she even steals the bar soap she said from the hotel. And it's not that they can't afford it, but it's just who doesn't take that little soap when it's nice. And I think that's the problem. You get home and you get this thing on your counter, right?
Well, you know why?
Yeah.
Because they smell so good.
They do.
So they trick you.
Okay, that's what it is.
They make you think, "Oh, this smells so good. I got to use this." And it also makes you feel like or gives you memories of the vacation you were on.
There you go. That's probably what it is.
It's a sensory.
You know what? You're 100% right. Because sometimes I've got these ... some of the nicer hotels give you full bars, right?
Oh, yes. Yeah.
They'll have the nice bubble bath set off. And those ... They're really cool, getting all fancy, right? So you get that bar soap, you have a nice, maybe it's a romantic weekend with your wife or significant other. And then you get this bar of soap, but it's like they replenish it every day. You're like, "Well, it'd be simpler to leave it here. And you bring it back. You're washing your hands and it's like ... You get that kind of like momentary break from your day, right? And you're back ... Well, I don't know. Maybe you're on Laguna Beach. Maybe you're in Bora Bora, the seashells. Maybe you're down in the Panama Canal. Doesn't matter. I mean, you're taken back. It's like that old commercial.
It's true. The smells and the sensory, however it does to your brain, right?
Boom. Well, the olfactory bulb, which is part of the brain that senses smell is associated with some of the most significant parts of our memory. In fact, it's one of the things that can trigger memories even 80 years later that haven't been thought in a long time. Crazy.
Wow, that's amazing. But, you know what? Some of these hotels are doing now is they're actually bringing in good skincare brands to create their products. It only happens here [crosstalk 00:04:50]
Making things better.
But when we're talking about the typical average bar soap, it's not something you want to put on your face.
Now, we're not going to name any names either. You're not going to get us to do that, but you know who you are [crosstalk 00:05:00]
That's right. Exactly.
Okay? And we know what those products are. They are the traditional bar soaps you probably will find in any supermarket or pharmacy.
That's right. And they can severely dry your skin out and strip it of the oils that your face needs. If it's something you're using for the rest of your body, underarms, privates, other places, you know that it intends to clean those areas.
It's to get the bacteria deep in those pores in your armpits out so it kind of clean up the [inaudible 00:05:27] there ... those areas that just kind of ... they get a little smelly.
So, we don't want to put it on our face. And you really don't-
And why do they get smelly? It's bacteria.
Right. And if you're using the soap all over your body, you really don't want to go back to your face anyways, right?
Well, that's probably just something you learned in first grade, but hey, listen, we're at all levels folks.
Right.
So all levels here. We're teaching at all levels.
So no bar soap, guys. All of them are different, but the traditional bar soap, it's not something you want to use.
Yeah. Why? Because it dries you out.
It dries you out.
Yeah.
It's not good for you. You need to keep some of the natural oils there.
Okay. Okay. I buy that. I like that. Definitely one of things that we should not do to our faces. What's number two, Tonia?
Number two is kitchen oil. Now-
Kitchen oil?
Yes. All kitchen oils are not created equal. You have extra virgin olive oil. You got safflower oil, canola oil, peanut oil, on and on and on.
Yeah, I know. I grew up in an Italian household. There's only one oil, olive oil, olive oil.
The best.
What else is there? There's no ... I mean, they cook everything in this olive oil.
Oh, yeah.
So, people putting this on their face now?
Okay. But do you know that even extra virgin olive oil, which there's a huge rage on YouTube about, the people are putting in all over their face and I guess there are some benefits to that.
If you want to smell like pizza. Right? Go ahead.
Right. Do I want to really smell like my garden salad on my face? Okay. Maybe some people do.
A vegetarian maybe.
Right.
Sure.
But I don't know if you know this or not. There was a huge industry like shakeup with olive oil coming from Italy.
Hey.
And it's not even ... It's counterfeit not even real olive oil.
What!
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my god.
That's a whole another thing, so.
[inaudible 00:07:10] does not import fake olive oil. Okay?
That happened. And it's been happening. All I can do [crosstalk 00:07:16]
So, not surprising.
But anyways, okay, so the oils, right?
Yes.
Some of the olive oils on YouTube people swear by.
And you definitely don't want to put this on your face right after you've cooked with it.
Exactly.
Look guys, this is all levels of information here. Don't put hot oil on your face. Okay.
Right.
And then ... I mean, I'm joking. I'm joking.
But the extra virgin olive oil people swear by that. That's the only one that's good for your face. I've never tried it. I love olive oil. That's all I cook with. That's all I put in my salad, but I am not putting it on my face.
It's not made for your face. If that was the case, I mean, people would be walking around rubbing olives on their face for the last 4,000 years. I mean, come on people. I mean, the olive has been around as long as the wheel has. Give me a break.
Right.
Well, I mean, we've been eating it. I mean, it's been around for millions of years, but you know what I'm saying? Go ahead. So-
Yeah. I know a lot of people are using canola oil.
No pan, no nonstick pan.
Yeah. Don't do any ... I mean-
Maybe a spritz somewhere, no?
Listen. some people love it. So I can't tell them if they're loving it already.
I can't believe it's not butter spray. Not for your face, people.
Yeah. I can't tell them it's not working for you if they feel it's working for them.
Don't do it.
But I ... my personal opinion, all my years in the skincare industry, I don't think it's something you should do. There's so many products out there that are so much better for you.
Look, I agree. I mean, if you really got to get down under the cabinets in your kitchen to find your skincare products, man, I'm sorry.
Right.
I'm sorry.
So let's stay away from that. It clogs your pores. It can actually give you more of a breakout because we already have some oil [crosstalk 00:08:44]
I've seen that. Yeah, no, I see ... God, I see that. The coconut oil routines are also one on one. I see that a lot.
Okay. I did coconut oil once in my hair. Pure coconut oil. Saw it online maybe eight years ago and it was the grossest nightmare of getting it out of my hair. I felt like I had to wash my hair 10 times. It was so greasy and heavy.
Yeah. No. I don't think that's necessary.
No. So forget that.
Yeah. I mean maybe if you want to do a DIY you go coconut oil mess, all right. Fine. But you know what? You're going to clog your pores, right? You got to ... I mean, I think the benefits of coconut oil have been well established to be overrated. Okay? So, you know.
Just have to be careful. You don't want to-
No. Stay out of the kitchen when you're dealing with your facial skincare regimen, okay? Bottom line.
Okay. So number three, body moisturizer.
Body moisturizer. Okay.
We do not want to put body moisturizer on our face at all, because-
Well, I mean, it's just made for your butt. I mean ... Is that the stuff you're talking about?
Well, the things that you buy at Bath and Body Works or ... that you're putting all over your skin, it's high in Shea butter and different things like that, which is great when your skin's dry, you're feet. You're [crosstalk 00:09:53]
Oh, that stuff is like pancake batter. You don't want to put that on your face, girls. That is-
Absolutely.
Guys, I mean. I-
Everyone.
That stuff is just way too thick. I've seen people put this stuff you put on like chafe elbows on their face. I'm like, "Guys, no, stop."
Yeah, let's not do that.
I mean, that's just too much ... A lot of that stuff has a lot of paraffin in it too. So, it's just ... You know what you become? It looks shiny for a minute, but that's like the apple in the supermarket where they put the wax on it.
Exactly.
I mean, it's kind of like ... it's not Madame Tussauds Wax Museum, okay?
No.
So, some of those body creams, they have the paraffin in it because the paraffin traps in moisture. Right? And so, the purpose of that is that in patients or individuals who are supremely dry, the paraffin acts as a moisture barrier, right? And that's good on the body, but your face needs to breathe. It's very important because you're ... Well-
That's right. It's not breathing.
If you clog those pores, you're going to create a perfect opportunity for bacteria to set up shop and make that pimple, okay? So, watch that body cream. Watch the paraffin amounts in it. Definitely not something on your face, okay?
No.
Dry skin, arms, knees, sure.
That's fine.
No problem.
Okay. So let's go to number four and this one is really freaking me out. It's baking soda.
Oh God, yeah. I heard about this.
Okay. Baking soda, we clean crevices like on the floor. It's super high alkaline.
Oh, yeah this is-
The texture is very intense and rough and thick.
Yeah. Yeah. It looks like ... okay. So it's like one of those things, I think it's like a old maid's tale. It's like baking soda, you can use for pretty much anything, right? You can brush your teeth with it. You can mop your floors. You put it in the fridge and it soaks up the stink. It's got like ... I don't know, but you can't use it for everything. Okay?
Yeah, you cannot.
I mean like come on, guys.
Well, I saw on YouTube, people were using it for their face. So they were taking ... they already had it in the refrigerator and then they were taking it out of the refrigerator and you did it on their face, but that's absorbing bacteria from the refrigerator and then getting infections on the face.
But it's like putting used toilet paper on your face. What are you doing? That's so stupid. Sorry.
I just had a visual. I mean, really? I would say.
[inaudible 00:12:10] filthy. It's all the bacteria from your fridge.
You're right. It's close.
I mean, that its whole job. It's like a filter for your fridge.
Yeah,
So, you got to take your filter from your fridge and wipe it on your face. Great.
Yeah, disgusting.
[inaudible 00:12:22] okay.
So don't use that, everyone. You can get severe allergic reaction. It can really irritate your skin if you're using it as a scrub. Let's not do that.
Yeah. Just do a little bit of an aside. Do you know what you can use baking soda for?
What?
I thought this is really cool. If you got a car that has one of those like really screeching fans like ... you start it up. You've heard it. It's like squeaky.
Yes.
And we don't get that so much here because it's pretty dry. But you just throw some baking soda on the belts on the car, it stops. But it's not for your face.
Okay. So do we really want ... Yeah. Do we really want something we put on the belts for our car on our face? Yeah.
No. You don't want that. You don't want that. Because you know why? You want to look beautiful. Right? All right. So baking soda-
No. Here's our last one.
No. Let's go from the top.
I have one more.
Let's recap. What was number one?
Okay. Number one is-
Was bar soap, right?
Traditional bar soap. [crosstalk 00:13:10]
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Number two, kitchen oil.
Kitchen oil, bad idea. You fry your face. No.
Three, body moisturizer.
Body moisturizer, too much paraffin. You're going to clog your pores. It's just too much.
Yeah. Four, baking soda.
Baking soda. Boom.
Boom. Okay.
Now, we have arrived, the controversial last one.
This is the biggest one that I've ever heard that is like unbelievable. Are you guys ready for this? Number five, semen.
Oh my God.
Doc, semen. People are putting semen on their face. They're getting facial, semen facial. Okay. Right.
All right. All right. Okay. Listen, Tonia, I got to have to step in here and take off the white coat for a minute, okay? And put on my chemistry glasses. What did you think I was going to say, stand up for all men everywhere?
Oh, you know what? I think ... Yeah. Are you going to do a bro thing and say it's okay because you don't want all men to like freak out on you like, "Doc, why did you do that?"
No. We're going to talk science. Okay?
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh (affirmative). I'm feeling that [crosstalk 00:14:06]
Okay. So sperm has this thing in it called spermine. It's a chemical compound. Okay?
Okay.
So, what is spermine? Well, spermine is an antioxidant guys, okay? So, we always talk about putting antioxidants on skin and all that stuff like vitamin C, E, ferulic, that stuff. But this is mother nature's antioxidant.
Okay.
It's a amino acid, okay? And it's formulated from L-ornithine. Okay? So, I'm going to get my geek hat on.
All right. That's good.
So, L-ornithine is part of the uric acid cycle. It's part of our mechanism of metabolism, but you can actually take L-ornithine supplements and it's believed to be part of the pathway for development of growth hormone. So a lot of supplement shops, GNC, vitamin shop, wherever you buy your vitamins from, they'll have this stuff and it's maybe a precursor for your natural GH so it's going to help you grow. So, the other thing that sperm has and it's probably from spermine, okay, is it's an antidepressant. Now, I don't know if it's absorbed through the skin, but it has been shown that-
What's it going to say? [crosstalk 00:15:15]
This was a clinical study.
[crosstalk 00:15:15] to absorb that antidepressant.
It may have to go in through a different route. I won't get into that.
Look, I appreciate-
All right? It's a family show. All right?
I appreciate ... I appreciate-
Look, I'm trying to be professional here. And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to take my chemist glasses off, put my beard on like my psychiatrist. It's an antidepressant for some reason. Right? So, there's actually a clinical study that showed that women who have some [crosstalk 00:15:40]
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
Is that what is, consistent? All right. Maybe that's what the study showed. Okay. But the study showed that this actually helped with depression. So, I mean, I'm going to beg to differ with number five for numerous reasons.
I'm going to pretend you're not a doctor right now. You're more a male and you're trying to make it more of a positive thing, but either way, okay.
I recent that. This is scientifically based on all accounts.
Okay. But when we go and [crosstalk 00:16:10]
And I'm here educate only.
When we go into antioxidants, right? We don't ... No one has tested each person's individual semen to see how high of an amount of antioxidants there are in that. And also, another thing is, what happens if the person has an STD?
Oh, well, yeah. You're-
So you're putting that onto your face.
Ew, you went there. Oh, man.
Okay. It's a fact. And now, women-
Well, if you're in a committed relationship, right? You're in a healthy marriage, right? Okay. In a committed relationship, the STD risk is relatively zero. Relatively zero.
Well, that's fine.
I mean, you could have sat on a toilet seat or something like that, right? Okay. Okay.
Okay. That's fine. [crosstalk 00:16:48]
So what about that situation, Tonia? And knowing all the facts that I've just laid out for you that it's an antidepressant, it's an antioxidant. It's a moisturizer. It has spermine in it and there's a lot of reasons. Given all that, STD free-
We need some evidence. So maybe-
There is evidence.
... we do some sort of ... So let's go into the sperm facials that people are getting. Okay? All I want to know is where they would get the semen from.
What? Wait, what?
It's true. It's something online. People are getting.
Come on.
They are. But where is the semen coming from? I do not recommend anyone does anything like this whatsoever.
Well, that's a health risk.
Well, of course it is.
Just, what?
Yes, it's a fact.
No. Can't be. This has to be ... [crosstalk 00:17:36]
Okay. It is a proven fact. All you have to do is Google it. You will see-
Who's sperm?
I don't know. They aren't saying who's sperm.
Is it human sperm? Whale sperm? What is this?
No, it's supposed to be human sperm.
What!
I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to find out more about this and we'll talk more about this and [crosstalk 00:17:50]
It's got to be on a dark web. Where are you finding this from?
I google it.
God!
Yeah.
Shame on you Google. [crosstalk 00:17:56]
So, that's something ... I don't think we should do the ... Doc, if you want to follow his advice on using it and the committed relationship [crosstalk 00:18:04]
I didn't tell you, you had to do it. All I'm saying is that there are benefits.
Okay.
Okay?
I appreciate that.
Can we leave it at that?
We can leave it at that.
Just focus on the science maybe.
I think that getting the right skincare is probably a better choice.
Yeah. Most of the time. Okay, I'll give you that. That's for sure. Okay.
Okay.
Because this is impractical [inaudible 00:18:23]. It's no way.
I completely agree with you.
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