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Welcome to this Smazy Academy show with Tonia Ryan and-
Christopher Khorsandi, MD.
This show is dedicated to giving you the best tips and tricks for your skincare. The doctor and I have over 30 years combined in the skincare and medical industry, and we can't wait to share our best practices with you. We have thousands of clients, we've transformed their skin, and we can't wait to help you as well, so whether you're a skincare newbie or a skincare connoisseur, this show's for you.
Yeah. We're here just to demystify this whole world of skincare products. There is a fortune spent every year by so many people and they don't even know what they're buying. Our goal here is just to educate, demystify, and make it fun. Skincare shouldn't be this big question mark that hangs over your head. It should be something that you routinely get into, that it's easy to do, that you have a knowledge base on, and maybe you can actually educate other people. Today we're going to be talking about CE Ferulic.
Yeah. We're going to be talking about how you get rid of your lines and wrinkles and why CE Ferulic is so important.
Okay. Getting rid of lines and wrinkles, there's a lot of different ways we could do that, right?
Oh gosh, yes.
Let's get to this product, CE Ferulic.
Okay. CE Ferulic, let's talk about that.
Tonia, let's talk about CE Ferulic. First of all, let's break it down.
Okay. We'll break it down.
What's Ferulic acid?
Okay. C, is the vitamin C and then E, is the vitamin E and then we add ferulic acid, and when they're all combined, that's when you get the special formula.
Right. First of all, vitamin C we know is a great antioxidant.
Yes, antioxidant.
Vitamin E is important for skin and its growth, it's protection, and the ferulic does what? It basically stabilizes a very unstable compound. Vitamin C is not the easiest thing to work with from a manufacturing standpoint.
And to keep it stabilized, right?
Right. If it hits the sun, it denatures and that's what you're going to see whenever you get a vitamin C type of serum or product, it's either in an opaque or a brown bottle, which blocks out the sunlight, and that keeps it from becoming degraded just by having it on your counter in your bathroom.
And oxidizes.
Oxidize. Yeah, once it oxidizes it's no longer effective. It doesn't really enact anything, doesn't protect the skin, doesn't give any antioxidant benefits, and so the ferulic actually stabilizes it. The ferulic is, I believe, an iron-based acid, and it was developed by some companies in the past. It's proven to be extremely effective at fighting the aging process. I use it post-laser for a lot of my patients. When I do a Fraxel, or a clear and brilliant, which is a 15-
What is a Fraxel?
A Fraxel's a branded type of laser product, but it's been around for, God, I think it's about 20 years now and it's a workhorse in my practice. I was moderating a dermatology panel. I'm a plastic surgeon, but I was at the global aesthetics meeting about two years ago, I was asked to moderate a dermatology panel, all these top dermatologists, and I had a question. I said, "If you're left on a desert island with one laser-
Which one would it be?
"Which one are you taking with you?" I have to say, I think about eight out of the 10 dermatologists up there said their Fraxel.
Wow.
What it is, the Fraxel works on a certain wavelength called 1550, which helps to actually remodel the collagen of your skin, so it penetrates through the upper layer of the skin without damaging it, gets the dermis, heats it, coagulates it, and causes new collagen to be formed. Now that whole process causes some inflammation in the skin, and afterwards, what I'll do is apply a CE Ferulic to the skin, and that actually cuts down on the amount of redness and swelling that the patient has, and it's been clinically proven to do that, so it's an antioxidant.
When we're doing this laser damage, which is a controlled damage, it's not sun damage. It's a controlled narrow spectrum, 1550 nanometer wavelength, damage to the skin, and then the body's going to react. It's going, oh my God, it's just got all this little damage, all these little spots. Then we put the CE Ferulic on top of it, it calms the skin down, it gives the body the repair mechanism tools, it turns on the DNA repair mechanism better, and it just works really well with skin. What does it do to a patient that's not getting a laser treatment? The vitamin C is protective, the vitamin E is protective and nurturing.
That's what we did with Smazy, with our skincare line. When we created it, we added the ferulic acid because it's a self stabilizing with the vitamin C and E, and that's what keeps its potency.
Right. What we're trying to do when we use this on a daily basis, obviously decrease the amount of the damage of the skin, decrease the risk of skin cancer, right?
Which is so important.
Yeah. Because the more damage the skin takes, the more DNA repair that has to go on. Anytime you're repairing your DNA, there's always a chance that it goes wrong, and that's where skin cancers come from.
Yeah. We don't want that.
Vitamin C, vitamin E, and ferulic, really combined together, create this standard product now. Now, some patients will find it sensitizing because vitamin C is an acid, and so there're going to be patients that it may not work for in terms of sensitivity, but I think the vast majority of patients do really well with this.
When we're adding the vitamin E that helps, I think, with the sensitivity-
Yeah, decreases the sensitivity-
Versus just a straight vitamin C serum.
Yeah. The vitamin E is nurturing and just calming for the skin, and the vitamin C, it's an acid, an ascorbic acid.
It's an acid. Think of orange juice.
Yeah. That's where we get our vitamin C from in nature when we're eating, it's from our citrus fruits. The lack of vitamin C in the days of sailing the seas would lead to a disease called scurvy. The British actually discovered that carrying a barrel of limes on the ship with them would allow these sailors, who were out to sea for so long without any sort of vitamin C input, because you don't make it from sunshine or anything, you get it from certain citrus fruits. This is where the derogatory term "limey" came from.
Limey, yeah. Limey sailors.
These limey sailors, because they'd be out to sea and if they didn't get vitamin C, their skin would get weird and they would get all these sorts of problems and the solution to it was to bring a barrel of limes with them.
I love limes. Limes and a little guacamole and avocado.
I don't think they were making guacamole on those ships, but maybe, I don't know.
But us modern day people-
But it shows you that when you remove these vitamins from our environment, that there's real disease. We talked about niacinamide, the lack of that leads to pellagra, which is another skin disease. Our skin is really what we eat and what we put on it, so when we're not getting enough of these protective nutrients, we can put it on topically.
Sure, because even when you're eating, let's say the most perfect, clean, healthy diet, you still need to add the products to your skin because otherwise there's still not enough from what we're eating.
When do you put your CE Ferulic on? What time of day?
Okay. Most people, it's in the morning. Some people use it at night, but I think it's good in the morning.
I think you can use it either time, but I think when you put it in the morning, it adds that protective effect from the environment.
Adds that protective effect.
As opposed to nighttime, when it's acting more of a restorative and the sponge of cleaning up the free radicals.
Yeah. Nighttime, I like the peptides because that's when everything's nourishing, when you're sleeping, it's in your moisturizer.
Yeah, feed the face.
That's right.
Feed the body.
That's right.
Feed the skin.
There's a whole regimen that we'll put down below for people to see, when you want to use your CE Ferulic, the brand that you would like to try, because all of them are different. There's one that's super popular and it does have a fragrance, as to where ours is fragrance-free, so it depends.
Yeah. I think one of the biggest criticisms of the main one that people have been accustomed to, is that smells terrible.
Smells like a hotdog.
Is that what it smells like?
That's what people say. I think it smells like something odd.
Burnt hair or something. Yeah.
Yeah, but they like it and it works, but that's why it was so important to us to make a fragrance-free one that worked just as well.
Yeah. I encourage people to try products. There are things that'll work for you, not everything's right for every person, but we really strive to create a product line that does not have those things that make you not want to use it, like a bad smell.
Right. A horrible smell, because I like things that smell good. I don't want fake fragrances. I want them to be fragrance-free, but if there is a fragrance, I want it to come from something natural.
Right. I want it to smell like water though. Nothing.
Yeah. Right. Right. We don't want it to be all of these different smells.
Awesome. That's basically CE Ferulic in a nutshell. I love talking about products and we're basically going to make our way through the entire world of skincare products.
There's so much. There's so much out there.
We touch on some things, we'll get into real deep dives on some stuff, but maybe you just found our show for the first time and this is eye-opening, like, oh my God, there's people actually knowledgeable about this.
I love them. They're going to say, I love them.
You want to know what you're putting on your skin, so maybe this is something you need to share with your friends, so if you like us, share this with somebody who's using stuff that maybe has an interest in what they're doing.
YouTube has a little button right there that just says share, you can share it on social.
You can like this video. You can subscribe because we do this on a regular basis, so you can get all the updates of when we're dropping new videos, new podcasts, and then share it. Then, the thing about our show here is that we enjoy feedback, so there's a comment section below, which we'll keep open and, good, bad, or indifferent, we're here to listen to what you want to say.
You have to be kind of nice. It can't not be nice.
We'll ban you If you're not nice. Don't be a jerk.
Yeah. Be nice to us.
Honestly, I have no time for people's nastiness. If it's constructive, hey, I'm all for it. If you want to pick apart something, okay, but if you're going to take a cheap shot, you're banned, brother. That's it.
So don't do it.
No. I think this is the world that we live in. We have to face some criticism, but I prefer criticism on what I'm saying and the content, rather than anything else. This is a conflict-free zone here. We're here to help people. Join us every week here and like and subscribe, and then check us out on Apple podcast, because if you're driving and you want to just put this on in your car for your commute, or you're just working out, we're right there with you. Okay? That's Tonia Ryan and I'm Dr. Christopher Khorsandi, and we're here to bring you the information. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time.
Thank you. Bye-bye.
Christopher Khorsandi, MD.
This show is dedicated to giving you the best tips and tricks for your skincare. The doctor and I have over 30 years combined in the skincare and medical industry, and we can't wait to share our best practices with you. We have thousands of clients, we've transformed their skin, and we can't wait to help you as well, so whether you're a skincare newbie or a skincare connoisseur, this show's for you.
Yeah. We're here just to demystify this whole world of skincare products. There is a fortune spent every year by so many people and they don't even know what they're buying. Our goal here is just to educate, demystify, and make it fun. Skincare shouldn't be this big question mark that hangs over your head. It should be something that you routinely get into, that it's easy to do, that you have a knowledge base on, and maybe you can actually educate other people. Today we're going to be talking about CE Ferulic.
Yeah. We're going to be talking about how you get rid of your lines and wrinkles and why CE Ferulic is so important.
Okay. Getting rid of lines and wrinkles, there's a lot of different ways we could do that, right?
Oh gosh, yes.
Let's get to this product, CE Ferulic.
Okay. CE Ferulic, let's talk about that.
Tonia, let's talk about CE Ferulic. First of all, let's break it down.
Okay. We'll break it down.
What's Ferulic acid?
Okay. C, is the vitamin C and then E, is the vitamin E and then we add ferulic acid, and when they're all combined, that's when you get the special formula.
Right. First of all, vitamin C we know is a great antioxidant.
Yes, antioxidant.
Vitamin E is important for skin and its growth, it's protection, and the ferulic does what? It basically stabilizes a very unstable compound. Vitamin C is not the easiest thing to work with from a manufacturing standpoint.
And to keep it stabilized, right?
Right. If it hits the sun, it denatures and that's what you're going to see whenever you get a vitamin C type of serum or product, it's either in an opaque or a brown bottle, which blocks out the sunlight, and that keeps it from becoming degraded just by having it on your counter in your bathroom.
And oxidizes.
Oxidize. Yeah, once it oxidizes it's no longer effective. It doesn't really enact anything, doesn't protect the skin, doesn't give any antioxidant benefits, and so the ferulic actually stabilizes it. The ferulic is, I believe, an iron-based acid, and it was developed by some companies in the past. It's proven to be extremely effective at fighting the aging process. I use it post-laser for a lot of my patients. When I do a Fraxel, or a clear and brilliant, which is a 15-
What is a Fraxel?
A Fraxel's a branded type of laser product, but it's been around for, God, I think it's about 20 years now and it's a workhorse in my practice. I was moderating a dermatology panel. I'm a plastic surgeon, but I was at the global aesthetics meeting about two years ago, I was asked to moderate a dermatology panel, all these top dermatologists, and I had a question. I said, "If you're left on a desert island with one laser-
Which one would it be?
"Which one are you taking with you?" I have to say, I think about eight out of the 10 dermatologists up there said their Fraxel.
Wow.
What it is, the Fraxel works on a certain wavelength called 1550, which helps to actually remodel the collagen of your skin, so it penetrates through the upper layer of the skin without damaging it, gets the dermis, heats it, coagulates it, and causes new collagen to be formed. Now that whole process causes some inflammation in the skin, and afterwards, what I'll do is apply a CE Ferulic to the skin, and that actually cuts down on the amount of redness and swelling that the patient has, and it's been clinically proven to do that, so it's an antioxidant.
When we're doing this laser damage, which is a controlled damage, it's not sun damage. It's a controlled narrow spectrum, 1550 nanometer wavelength, damage to the skin, and then the body's going to react. It's going, oh my God, it's just got all this little damage, all these little spots. Then we put the CE Ferulic on top of it, it calms the skin down, it gives the body the repair mechanism tools, it turns on the DNA repair mechanism better, and it just works really well with skin. What does it do to a patient that's not getting a laser treatment? The vitamin C is protective, the vitamin E is protective and nurturing.
That's what we did with Smazy, with our skincare line. When we created it, we added the ferulic acid because it's a self stabilizing with the vitamin C and E, and that's what keeps its potency.
Right. What we're trying to do when we use this on a daily basis, obviously decrease the amount of the damage of the skin, decrease the risk of skin cancer, right?
Which is so important.
Yeah. Because the more damage the skin takes, the more DNA repair that has to go on. Anytime you're repairing your DNA, there's always a chance that it goes wrong, and that's where skin cancers come from.
Yeah. We don't want that.
Vitamin C, vitamin E, and ferulic, really combined together, create this standard product now. Now, some patients will find it sensitizing because vitamin C is an acid, and so there're going to be patients that it may not work for in terms of sensitivity, but I think the vast majority of patients do really well with this.
When we're adding the vitamin E that helps, I think, with the sensitivity-
Yeah, decreases the sensitivity-
Versus just a straight vitamin C serum.
Yeah. The vitamin E is nurturing and just calming for the skin, and the vitamin C, it's an acid, an ascorbic acid.
It's an acid. Think of orange juice.
Yeah. That's where we get our vitamin C from in nature when we're eating, it's from our citrus fruits. The lack of vitamin C in the days of sailing the seas would lead to a disease called scurvy. The British actually discovered that carrying a barrel of limes on the ship with them would allow these sailors, who were out to sea for so long without any sort of vitamin C input, because you don't make it from sunshine or anything, you get it from certain citrus fruits. This is where the derogatory term "limey" came from.
Limey, yeah. Limey sailors.
These limey sailors, because they'd be out to sea and if they didn't get vitamin C, their skin would get weird and they would get all these sorts of problems and the solution to it was to bring a barrel of limes with them.
I love limes. Limes and a little guacamole and avocado.
I don't think they were making guacamole on those ships, but maybe, I don't know.
But us modern day people-
But it shows you that when you remove these vitamins from our environment, that there's real disease. We talked about niacinamide, the lack of that leads to pellagra, which is another skin disease. Our skin is really what we eat and what we put on it, so when we're not getting enough of these protective nutrients, we can put it on topically.
Sure, because even when you're eating, let's say the most perfect, clean, healthy diet, you still need to add the products to your skin because otherwise there's still not enough from what we're eating.
When do you put your CE Ferulic on? What time of day?
Okay. Most people, it's in the morning. Some people use it at night, but I think it's good in the morning.
I think you can use it either time, but I think when you put it in the morning, it adds that protective effect from the environment.
Adds that protective effect.
As opposed to nighttime, when it's acting more of a restorative and the sponge of cleaning up the free radicals.
Yeah. Nighttime, I like the peptides because that's when everything's nourishing, when you're sleeping, it's in your moisturizer.
Yeah, feed the face.
That's right.
Feed the body.
That's right.
Feed the skin.
There's a whole regimen that we'll put down below for people to see, when you want to use your CE Ferulic, the brand that you would like to try, because all of them are different. There's one that's super popular and it does have a fragrance, as to where ours is fragrance-free, so it depends.
Yeah. I think one of the biggest criticisms of the main one that people have been accustomed to, is that smells terrible.
Smells like a hotdog.
Is that what it smells like?
That's what people say. I think it smells like something odd.
Burnt hair or something. Yeah.
Yeah, but they like it and it works, but that's why it was so important to us to make a fragrance-free one that worked just as well.
Yeah. I encourage people to try products. There are things that'll work for you, not everything's right for every person, but we really strive to create a product line that does not have those things that make you not want to use it, like a bad smell.
Right. A horrible smell, because I like things that smell good. I don't want fake fragrances. I want them to be fragrance-free, but if there is a fragrance, I want it to come from something natural.
Right. I want it to smell like water though. Nothing.
Yeah. Right. Right. We don't want it to be all of these different smells.
Awesome. That's basically CE Ferulic in a nutshell. I love talking about products and we're basically going to make our way through the entire world of skincare products.
There's so much. There's so much out there.
We touch on some things, we'll get into real deep dives on some stuff, but maybe you just found our show for the first time and this is eye-opening, like, oh my God, there's people actually knowledgeable about this.
I love them. They're going to say, I love them.
You want to know what you're putting on your skin, so maybe this is something you need to share with your friends, so if you like us, share this with somebody who's using stuff that maybe has an interest in what they're doing.
YouTube has a little button right there that just says share, you can share it on social.
You can like this video. You can subscribe because we do this on a regular basis, so you can get all the updates of when we're dropping new videos, new podcasts, and then share it. Then, the thing about our show here is that we enjoy feedback, so there's a comment section below, which we'll keep open and, good, bad, or indifferent, we're here to listen to what you want to say.
You have to be kind of nice. It can't not be nice.
We'll ban you If you're not nice. Don't be a jerk.
Yeah. Be nice to us.
Honestly, I have no time for people's nastiness. If it's constructive, hey, I'm all for it. If you want to pick apart something, okay, but if you're going to take a cheap shot, you're banned, brother. That's it.
So don't do it.
No. I think this is the world that we live in. We have to face some criticism, but I prefer criticism on what I'm saying and the content, rather than anything else. This is a conflict-free zone here. We're here to help people. Join us every week here and like and subscribe, and then check us out on Apple podcast, because if you're driving and you want to just put this on in your car for your commute, or you're just working out, we're right there with you. Okay? That's Tonia Ryan and I'm Dr. Christopher Khorsandi, and we're here to bring you the information. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time.
Thank you. Bye-bye.